Lawfare Archive: Nicole Perlroth on the Cyberweapons Arms Race
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🗓️ 11 March 2023
⏱️ 70 minutes
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From March 19, 2021: Jack Goldsmith spoke with New York Times cybersecurity reporter Nicole Perlroth about her new book, "This is How They Tell Me the World Ends: The Cyberweapons Arms Race." They discussed the dark world of markets for zero-day vulnerabilities that are so vital in offensive cyber operations, the history of the markets, how they work, who the players are and why the United States doesn't control as much as it used to. They also discussed broader issues of U.S. cybersecurity policy, including the recent SolarWinds hack.
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| 1:19.0 | March 11th, 2023. |
| 1:21.4 | In light of the Biden administration's recently released National Cybersecurity Strategy, |
| 1:25.3 | for today's archive episode, I selected an episode from March 2021. |
| 1:28.9 | In the episode, Jack Goldsmith sat down with Nicole Pearl Roth to discuss Pearl Roth's |
| 1:32.8 | book. |
| 1:33.8 | This is how they tell me the world ends, the cyber weapons arms race. |
| 1:37.4 | Goldsmith and Pearl Roth discuss the markets for zero-day vulnerabilities and their role |
| 1:41.0 | in offensive cyber operations. |
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