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I'm Emily Day and this is an episode from the LawFair Archives for October 3rd, 2021.

There's been a lot of focus on North Korea this week,

but the country one day raising hopes for diplomatic relations in South Korea

in the next firing missiles to show off their war fighting capabilities.

I chose a conversation from August 5th, 2017 between Benjamin Wittis,

Mio Rapp Hooper, an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security,

and Steph Haggard, a distinguished professor of political science at the University of California, San Diego,

discussing diplomatic and military options for addressing the North Korean threat.

I'm Matthew Khan and this is the LawFair podcast, August 5th, 2017.

Kim Jong-un's fast growing nuclear capability has captured the world's attention.

This week, Benjamin Wittis sat down with Mio Rapp Hooper,

adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security,

and Steph Haggard, a distinguished professor of political science at UC San Diego,

and his first visit to North Korea was to take a look at the recent developments on the Korean peninsula.

The conversation covered North Korea's recent spree of missile tests,

the stability of deterrence against the Kim regime,

...