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Lawfare Archive: Jameel Jaffer on the 'The Drone Memos'

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🗓️ 19 May 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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From January 14, 2017: At this week's Hoover Book Soiree, Jack Goldsmith interviewed Jameel Jaffer about his new book, The Drone Memos: Targeted Killing, Secrecy, and the Law.

It's a wide-ranging discussion about targeted killing and its legality, and of Jaffer's work at the ACLU—where he ran national security litigation until recently—in holding the government to account for its practices. And it includes a fascinating debate between him and Jack about whether, in that role, he won more than he lost or lost more than he won, a debate in which each side takes exactly the opposite view than one might expect.

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archive for May 19, 2024. With ongoing conflicts in the Middle East, Ukraine, and Africa, incidents of targeted killings have exacerbated the geopolitical tensions.

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chose an episode from January 14th, 2017.

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In the episode, Jack Goldsmith interviewed

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Jamil Jaffer on his book, The Drum Memos,

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Targeted Killing, Secrecy, and The Law.

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They discussed targeted killing and its legality.

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Jaffers work at the ACLU holding the government accountable for its practices

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and more. I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the Law Fair Podcast,

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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the Law Fair Podcast

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January 14th, 2017.

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