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Lawfare Archive: Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of White Supremacist Groups

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🗓️ 10 December 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

From April 14, 2021: A lot of people are expressing anxiety about white supremacist violent terrorism, yet in a new Brookings paper entitled "Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of the White Supremacist Movement," Daniel Byman, Lawfare's foreign policy editor and a senior fellow at the Brookings Center for Middle East Policy, and Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League, say that while the threat is real, these movements have weaknesses that other terrorist groups do not. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Byman and Pitcavage to talk about these weaknesses, how white supremacist groups are vulnerable and how law enforcement in the United States can exploit them to reduce the threat.

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0:40.8

I'm Will Appleton with an episode from the LawFair archive for December 10, 2022.

0:46.6

On November 30, 2022, the Department of Homeland Security released an updated National Terrorism

0:52.9

Advisory System, Bulletin, detailing various aspects of the heightened threat environment

0:57.8

the country finds itself in, including recent threats to faith-based communities, politically

1:02.8

motivated violence, and even domestic actors drawing inspiration from a Slovakian shooter

1:08.2

who espoused white supremacist beliefs.

1:11.0

In order to try and better understand how the government combats domestic violent extremists,

1:15.7

I chose an episode from April 2021.

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In the episode, Benjamin Wittis sat down with Daniel Beignin and Mark Pitcavige to discuss

1:23.6

the threat of white supremacist groups, their weaknesses and vulnerabilities, and how

1:28.0

U.S. law enforcement can exploit those weaknesses to reduce the threat they pose.

1:34.0

I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast April 14, 2021.

1:42.7

A lot of people are expressing anxiety about white supremacist violent terrorism.

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And yet in a new Brookings paper, Daniel Beignin and Mark Pitcavige say these movements

1:56.8

have really devastating weaknesses.

2:01.1

Beignin is of course LawFair's foreign policy editor and a senior fellow in the Brookings

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Center for Middle East Policy.

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