Lawfare Archive: How the FCC is Tackling National Security with Enforcement Bureau Chief Loyaan Egal
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🗓️ 4 January 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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From October 9, 2024: For today’s episode, Loyaan Egal, the Chief of the Enforcement Bureau at the Federal Communications Commission (“FCC”), sat down with Lawfare Senior Editor and General Counsel Scott R. Anderson and Lawfare Contributing Editor and Morrison Foerster partner Brandon Van Grack to discuss the FCC’s growing but often underappreciated role in advancing U.S. national security.
They covered how the FCC’s mandate intersects with U.S. national security concerns, how the FCC is tackling cutting-edge issues ranging from undersea cables to artificial intelligence-enabled election interference, and what other national security challenges the FCC is looking out for on the horizon.
This episode is part of our special series, “The Regulators,” co-sponsored with Morrison Foerster, in which Brandon and Scott sit down with senior U.S. officials working at the front lines of U.S. national security and economic statecraft.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Isabella Royal, Internate Lawfare, with an episode from the Lawfare Archive for January 4th, 2006. |
| 0:16.0 | On December 17, 2025, the Senate held an oversight hearing for the Federal Communications Commission, |
| 0:22.2 | or FCC, which largely focused on FCC Chair Brendan Carr's effort to pressure broadcasters |
| 0:27.3 | to remove late-night host Jimmy Kimmel from the air in September, after Kimmel made a comment |
| 0:31.9 | on his show related to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. In the oversight hearing, Carr emphasized |
| 0:36.6 | that the FCC is, quote, |
| 0:38.3 | not an independent agency, end quote. For today's archive, I chose an episode from October 9th, |
| 0:43.7 | 2004, in which Scott R. Anderson, Brendan Van Grak, and Leone Gall discussed the FCC's growing |
| 0:50.2 | but often underappreciated rule in advancing U.S. national security, how the FCC is |
| 0:55.0 | addressing issues from undersea cables to artificial intelligence-enabled election interference, |
| 0:59.3 | and what other national security challenges the FCC may encounter. |
| 1:03.5 | This episode originally aired as part of Lawfare series The Regulators. |
| 1:06.8 | The Regulators. It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Scott R. Anderson, Lawfare Senior Editor with Lawfare |
| 1:20.6 | Contributing Editor Brandon Van Grak and Loyal, the head of the enforcement Bureau for the Federal |
| 1:25.8 | Communications Commission or the FCC. |
| 1:28.6 | We're going to continue to prioritize the work that I mentioned before, making sure that |
| 1:32.8 | telecommunication companies are hardening their vulnerabilities, making sure that they're protecting |
| 1:38.9 | sensitive data consistent with statutory and regulatory requirements, and making sure |
| 1:43.9 | they're protecting people's privacy, |
| 1:45.7 | not using their information beyond the need to provide the service that the customer is expecting |
| 1:51.8 | to receive. Today, for the latest installment of our The Regulator series, co-produced with |
| 1:57.0 | Morrison Forrester, we're discussing the FCC's growing role in addressing national |
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