I'm Marissa Wong, Internet Lawfare, with an episode from the Lawfare

for April 26, 2006.

On April 21st, the Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for allegedly engaging in a nine-year-long

fraud operation by covertly paying over $3 million to informants associated with violent extremist

groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance. For today's

archive, I chose an episode from December 17th, 2004,

in which Kathman Pompealio sat down with Elle Reeve

to discuss Reeve's book, Black Pill,

how I witnessed the darkest corners of the internet come to life,

poison society, and capture American politics.

On the role of building working relationships

with alt-right figures in her investigative reporting process.

It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Catherine Pompilio, associate editor of lawfare, with El Reve,

correspondent at CNN who covers right-wing extremism and the all right.

But January 6th was like grown-ups, elders, people who clearly had jobs, like people who were

wearing nice winter coats, people who could be like

my aunt, you know, and just seeing them so possessed by these ideas that, again, that I didn't

feel like they even understood the origins of.

Today, we're talking about Reeve's book entitled Black Pill,

how I witness the darkest corners of the internet come to life,

poisoned society, and capture American politics.

To get us situated, what is your elevator pitch for this book?

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