Lawfare Archive: Elizabeth Shackelford on 'The Dissent Channel'
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🗓️ 29 April 2023
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From May 13, 2020: Scott R. Anderson sat down with Elizabeth Shackelford, a former foreign service officer whose late 2017 resignation became a sign of growing discontent with the Trump administration within the diplomatic corps. They talked about her new book, "The Dissent Channel," out this week, which discusses her experience as a young diplomat living through a period of crisis in South Sudan, and the lessons it taught her about diplomacy, human rights and the role of the United States in the world.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:38.8 | I'm Avery Schmitz. |
| 0:40.1 | In turnout LawFair, with an episode from the LawFair Archive, for the past two weeks, |
| 0:44.6 | Sudan has been rocked by intense fighting between government troops and the rapid support |
| 0:49.0 | forces, or RSF. |
| 0:51.4 | So far reports indicate that at least 4,500 people have been killed or injured and many |
| 0:57.7 | more have fled the violence in the capital city. |
| 1:00.8 | Four days ago, the United States evacuated its embassy in Khartoum. |
| 1:04.8 | For context on Sudan's history of political turmoil, I chose an episode from the LawFair |
| 1:09.6 | Archive from May 13, 2020. |
| 1:14.3 | In the episode, Scott R. Anderson sat down with Elizabeth Shackleford to discuss her book, |
| 1:20.4 | The Descent Channel, which recounts her time as a diplomat in South Sudan during a period |
| 1:26.0 | of turbulence between the two countries. |
| 1:29.5 | Anderson and Shackleford cover efforts to protect human rights in the country, the United |
| 1:34.2 | States' role in Northeastern Africa and more. |
| 1:39.4 | I'm Scott R. Anderson and this is the LawFair podcast for May 13, 2020. |
| 1:46.7 | This week, I sat down with Elizabeth Shackleford, a former Foreign Service officer whose late |
| 1:51.3 | 2017 resignation became a sign of growing discontent with the Trump administration within |
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