Lawfare Archive: Defending an Unowned Internet
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🗓️ 19 September 2021
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
A discussion at the Berkman Center: In the wake of the disclosures about government surveillance and the rise of corporate-run applications and protocols, is the idea of an “unowned” Internet still a credible one? The Berkman Center’s Jonathan Zittrain moderates a panel, incluing Yochai Benkler (Harvard Law School), Ebele Okobi (Yahoo!), Bruce Schneier (CO3 Systames), and Benjamin Wittes (Brookings Institution) to explore surveillance, and the potential for reforms in policy, technology, and corporate and consumer behavior.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | Hello, this is Jacob Schultz and from the archive September 19th, I'm picking a conversation |
| 0:47.0 | at the Berkman Center, another Berkman Klein Center, moderated by Jonathan Zitriyan of |
| 0:51.1 | Harvard Law School with Yochai Benchler, Ebele Okoby, Bruce Schneer and Ben Wittis. |
| 0:56.7 | They talk about surveillance, consumer technology, corporate behavior, and all sorts of other |
| 1:02.1 | tech issues that were live in 2014 and continue to be live today. |
| 1:09.4 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast. |
| 1:14.1 | That was Internet Security Guru Bruce Schneer speaking this week at a remarkable event at |
| 1:19.6 | the Berkman Center for the Internet and Society at Harvard University, an event in which |
| 1:24.7 | I also spoke. |
| 1:26.5 | It was one of the best public conversations I've been involved in since the whole NSA scandal |
| 1:31.6 | started. |
| 1:32.6 | It was moderated by Harvard Internet Law Scholar Jonathan Zitriyan at an included Yochai |
| 1:38.4 | Benchler, also of Harvard, Schneer and Ebele Okoby, senior legal director for human rights |
| 1:45.4 | at Yahoo. |
| 1:46.8 | It also, to everyone's surprise, turned out to include Tim Berners-Lee, who invented |
| 1:52.2 | a little thing called the World Wide Web and spoke up with some surprising remarks from |
| 1:57.3 | the audience. |
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