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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Archive: Cheap Fakes on the Campaign Trail

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🗓️ 20 May 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

From September 9, 2020: It was a big week for manipulated video and audio content. In just 36 hours, senior republicans or people associated with the Trump campaign tweeted, posted or shared manipulated audio or video on social media three times, prompting backlash from media and tech companies. Last week, Lawfare's managing editor, Quinta Jurecic, and associate editor, Jacob Schulz, wrote a piece analyzing these incidents. To talk through issues of deep fakes and cheap fakes, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Quinta, Jacob and Danielle Citron, a professor of law at the Boston University School of law. They talked about who posted what on Twitter and other social media, how the companies responded, what more they could have done and whether posting manipulated video is still worth it, given how companies now respond.

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

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no bull and the aftermath.

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I'm John Emmins, Internal LawFair, with an episode from the LawFair Archive for May 20,

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2023.

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As the 2024 presidential race comes into focus, alongside recent major innovations in

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generative AI models, I decided to select an episode from September 2020 for this week's

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archive podcast, in which Benjamin Wittis sat down with Quintanjuressik, Jacob Schultz,

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and Danielle Citron to discuss a spate of what they call cheap fakes.

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He's recently made an easily detectable manipulated videos, shared by the Trump campaign and

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the run-up to the 2020 election.

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They went over who posted what on Twitter and other platforms, how social media companies

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responded, whether more could have been done, and whether it's still worth it for campaigns

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to propagate manipulated video in light of platform responses.

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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast September 9, 2020.

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It was a big week for manipulated video and audio content within 36 hours senior Republicans

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or people associated with the Trump campaign three times tweeted or posted or shared manipulated

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audio or video on social media, prompting backlash from media and the tech companies.

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Last week, LawFair's managing editor, Quintanjuressik, and associate editor, Jacob Schultz,

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wrote a piece analyzing these incidents.

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