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Lawfare Archive: Carol Leonnig on the United States Secret Service and What to Do About It

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🗓️ 4 August 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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From July 7, 2021: The United States Secret Service has many important missions, the most public of which is protecting the president of the United States. And in this mission, its motto is "Zero Fail." There is no window for them to let their guard down when it comes to protecting the commander-in-chief.

And yet, the past several decades of the Secret Service's protection have seen gaps, mistakes and exposures of some fundamental problems within the Secret Service itself. Carol Leonnig is a Pulitzer Prize-winning national investigative reporter at the Washington Post known for her reporting on the Secret Service, as well as the Trump presidency and many other topics. She is also the author of the new book, "Zero Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Secret Service." She sat down with David Priess to talk about the United States Secret Service, its mission, its challenges and potential reforms to get over some of its most fundamental flaws.

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for August 4th, 2024. On July 13th,

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13th at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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former President Donald Trump was the target of an assassination attempt.

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Just minutes after Trump began to speak, 20-year-old gunman Thomas Crooks, perched on a roof about 400 feet from the president, opened fire, wounding two spectators and killing one.

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According to the FBI, Trump's ear was grazed by a bullet or bullet fragment.

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Since the incident, U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheetle resigned after the agency came under harsh scrutiny for its failure to prevent the shooting.

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For today's archive episode, I chose a conversation from the Law Fair Podcast that aired on July 7th, 2021.

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In the episode, David Priests sat down with Carol Leonegg to discuss her book

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Zero Fail, The Rise and Fall of the Secret Service,

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about the gaps, mistakes, and problems that have emerged within the Secret

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Service in the past decades and potential reforms to the agency that can help address some of its

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fundamental flaws. I'm David Priests, and this is the Law Fair Podcast,

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July 7th, 2021.

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