Lawfare Archive: Brian Fishman on Violent Extremism and Platform Liability
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🗓️ 11 January 2025
⏱️ 69 minutes
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From May 12, 2023: Earlier this year, Brian Fishman published a fantastic paper with Brookings thinking through how technology platforms grapple with terrorism and extremism, and how any reform to Section 230 must allow those platforms space to continue doing that work. That’s the short description, but the paper is really about so much more—about how the work of content moderation actually takes place, how contemporary analyses of the harms of social media fail to address the history of how platforms addressed Islamist terror, and how we should understand “the original sin of the internet.”
For this episode of Arbiters of Truth, our occasional series on the information ecosystem, Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic sat down to talk with Brian about his work. Brian is the cofounder of Cinder, a software platform for the kind of trust and safety work we describe here, and he was formerly a policy director at Meta, where he led the company’s work on dangerous individuals and organizations.
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| 1:51.8 | This week, Meta's announcement of changes to content moderation, including the replacement of their fact-checking program with user-written community notes similar to those on X, |
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| 2:16.2 | sat down with Brian Fishman, co-founder of Cinder and former policy |
| 2:20.3 | director at Meta, where he led Meta's work on dangerous individuals and organizations. |
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