Lawfare Archive: A House Divided
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🗓️ 4 December 2021
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
From May 6, 2017: Three months into the Trump presidency, where does the relationship between the President and the intelligence community stand? Donald Trump is no longer quite so regularly combative in his tweets and public comments about the various intelligence agencies, but the White House-intelligence community relationship is still far from normal under this very unusual presidency. Here to ponder the question are former NSA and CIA director General Michael Hayden, former acting and deputy director of CIA John McLaughlin, and former deputy national security advisor for combating terrorism Juan Zarate, who spoke with the Washington Post’s David Ignatius in a recent event at the Aspen Institute.
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| 0:27.3 | and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.3 | I'm Emily Day and this is an episode from the LawFair archives for December 4, 2021. |
| 0:44.6 | This week, retired intelligence officer John Helgerson revealed that the intelligence community |
| 0:48.8 | struggled to brief former president Trump the weeks before he entered office in a new |
| 0:52.8 | edition of this book getting to know the president. |
| 0:55.7 | Helgerson wrote that Trump doubted the competence of intelligence professionals and felt |
| 0:59.3 | no need for regular intelligence support. |
| 1:02.2 | To give more context to the relationship between Trump and the intelligence community, I chose |
| 1:06.6 | an episode from May 6, 2017 in which three former intelligence officers discussed the |
| 1:11.9 | feud between Trump and the intelligence community. |
| 1:20.7 | I'm Quinta Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast. |
| 1:24.9 | May 6, 2017 |
| 1:28.6 | More than 100 days into the Trump presidency, the president's ongoing feud with the intelligence |
| 1:33.4 | community has calmed somewhat. |
| 1:35.8 | But while we're no longer treated quite so often to presidential tweets criticizing various |
| 1:40.2 | intelligence agencies, there's still a long way to go in healing the breach. |
| 1:44.6 | Recently at the Aspen Institute, the Washington Post's David Ignatius sat down with former NSA |
| 1:50.3 | director General Michael Hayden, former acting and deputy director of CIA John McLaughlin, |
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