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The Red Nation Podcast

Lawfare: a proxy war against the Sacred w/ Natali Segovia

The Red Nation Podcast

The Red Nation

Society & Culture, History

4.8943 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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TRN Podcast host Nick Estes speaks with attorney Natali Segovia, Executive Director of the Water Protector Legal Collective.

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0:00.0

I'm Hamatakiapi, this is Nick Estes, the host of the Red Nation podcast.

0:36.3

We are joined today by a friend of mine, Natalie Segovia,

0:41.7

who is the executive director of the Water Protector Legal Collective.

0:46.1

She's also a long-time, I guess, environmental justice lawyer,

0:51.2

if you want to call it that.

0:52.3

But I've had some personal experience with Natalie, and she's done a great job of, you know,

0:58.0

representing water protectors, but also advocating and trying to push back on the media narrative,

1:04.1

especially as it surrounds the fossil fuel industry and specifically fossil fuel companies like energy transfer and their

1:15.7

narrative that they push to criminalize dissent, but also to go after indigenous sovereignty

1:22.9

and environmental rights.

1:25.9

So Natalie, if you want to introduce yourself, tell us where you're calling from,

1:30.2

you know, where you're from, but also if you can just talk to us about how you got into

1:35.5

lawyering.

1:36.5

I, Jan Shiu, Yon, your community, Noggi, Noghostko, Peru, Mantakani, and Novay, Mankani. Good morning, everyone. Good afternoon.

1:46.0

Thank you so much for having me on, Nick.

1:48.0

It's great to talk to you.

1:50.0

I know we haven't had a chance to touch base in a long time here.

1:53.0

But glad that this is an opportunity to do so.

1:58.0

My name is Natalie Zagovia.

2:00.0

I am the executive director and

2:02.4

senior attorney at the Water Protector Legal Collective, which is an indigenous-led nonprofit

2:08.2

law firm and advocacy organization that began at Standing Rock. Our founding mission is really

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