Ready?

I was born ready.

Welcome to Advisory Opinions. I'm Sarah Isgo. That's David French. And we are coming at you live from Catholic University. The law school here, David, it's a real treat. It's a snowy day. We made our way up here, though. Beautiful campus. Ah, the memories. When I drive up to Catholic University, There was something that happened here. Oh,

gosh, September of 2019, I had a little debate with Sorabamari at Catholic University called the

melee at CUA. And I may have lost my temper in the debate, Sarah. So I have to come back and

redeem myself by being relentlessly

calm and kind, no matter how mean you are to me in the questions. But no, it's a real pleasure

to be here. I love Catholic University. And this is, it's a beautiful campus, a beautiful place.

And my entire experience is not the

melee at CUA. I also have had other good experiences here. Well, I hope some of the students

take that as a challenge, so you can get under your skin. Uh, we have two guests with us today.

Professor Joelle Alasea is the associate professor of law and director of the center for Constitution and the Catholic Intellectual Tradition.

And we have Judge Trevor McFadden.

Judge McFadden is a judge on the D.C. court here.

But more importantly, we work together at the Department of Justice.

And more importantly than that,

I knew his wife before I knew him. I knew when he was just a boyfriend. That's right. Yeah.

Might have known her more than longer than I've known her. Okay, we'll compare notes after.

You and I are having flashbacks to eight years ago where we're spending a lot of time together.

One of the cool things about your background is also the you're a police officer,

after undergrad and before law school, which has to be pretty interesting as a judge.

You've sort of been at the various steps.

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