Law Schools Underreport Scholarships (Ep. 490)

Thinking LSAT

Nathan Fox and Ben Olson

Education

4.8 • 868 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

The law school application cycle is far from over, but some disappointed applicants are starting to wonder: “What did I do wrong?” This week, Nathan and Ben point out some potential red flags that may have hurt one listener’s applications. The guys also explain how to develop speed on the LSAT, caution applicants against oversharing in optional essays, and bemoan the confusing state of ABA 509 reports.

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1:22 - Tips from a Departing Demon - LSAT Demon student James writes: “Don't give up! Fight like you’re the third monkey on the ramp to the Ark and it’s starting to rain!”

3:16 - Disappointing Cycle - An anonymous listener wasn’t offered the scholarships they expected. Ben and Nathan try to figure out what went wrong.

20:44 - Slow Down to Speed Up - The guys assure listener Adriana that speed will come naturally if she sticks with her accuracy-first approach.

25:56 - Optional Essay - An anonymous listener considers emailing law schools a diversity statement to belatedly add to their applications. Ben and Nathan oppose this plan.

30:02 - What’s the Deal with…? - The guys investigate another law school that’s been climbing the rankings in recent years: the University of Georgia School of Law.

1:00:36 - ABA 509 Scholarship Confusion - Nathan and Ben criticize the obfuscation of scholarship data in ABA 509 reports.

1:09:14 - Word of the Week - Straightforward 509 reports are the desideratum.

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0:00.0	What do you think about the personal statement and the diversity statement?
0:03.3	I see some possible red flags depending on how they executed it.
0:15.5	Hello and welcome. It's episode 490 of the Thinking ElSat podcast. I'm Nathan Box. With me is Ben Olson. We are the co-founders of
0:22.8	ElsetDemon.com and the ElSat Demon Daily podcast. We have an appearance coming up tomorrow,
0:29.7	actually. If you listen to this on the day, the podcast is released tomorrow. We won't be there,
0:34.5	but Abigail and Billy will be at the New York City Bar, LSAT prep, and law school conference.
0:41.3	It's free for students to register.
0:43.2	They're going to have their booth and prize wheel set up all day.
0:47.3	Billy has a talk at 120 p.m. about LSAT prep.
0:51.5	So go see Abigail and Billy.
0:53.6	They're awesome demon team members at the NYC bar.
0:58.3	Whether you can do that or not, we do also have a free prep test review coming up.
1:04.3	That's on Saturday, February 1st with Kaylee. Do the test in advance, which you can do in the demon, and then show up and review that
1:14.0	test with Kaylee again on Saturday, February 1st. Just go to elseat demon.com forward slash free
1:18.8	if you want to sign up for that. We have a tip from a departing demon here at the top of the show.
1:26.6	When people unsubscribe from the demon, they
1:29.0	fit out a little form and let us know how it went for them. So this is somebody who says that
1:33.5	they crushed the LSAT and they had a tip for future demon students. Okay. The advice is don't
1:42.4	give up. Fight like you're the third monkey on the ramp to the arc and it's starting to rain.
1:50.3	Okay. Yeah, I guess if you're the third monkey, the first two monkeys, male and female, have already gotten onto the arc and they don't need you anymore.
1:59.8	And James is saying, fight like hell to get your
2:03.1	spot okay I thought that that was a funny uh little southern uh aphorism there and worth
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