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This week's Law and Order Marathon, which this week's Law and Order Marathon winner is

Bridget Goodrow of Laguna Hills, California. Bridget will get a marathon decal showing,

she watched 26.2 hours of her favorite crime show. To be next week's winner,

find about lawnorderpodcast.com. I'm Kevin Flynn with Rebecca LaVoy and Brady Carlson,

and these are their stories.

Welcome to these are their stories. The podcast about network TV's most enduring crime franchise

and the real life cases that inspired their shows. I'm Kevin Flynn. Each podcast will break down

an episode from either criminal intent, SVU or original recipe. And today we're looking at the

return of the mothership. Law and Order season 21, episode 1, the right thing. But it's a legal

confession on cops are allowed to lie. They are, but it makes the confession less reliable,

less ethical. No, it's legal, it's ethical. Joining me to do just that is true crime author and

the host of crime writers on and Netflix is you can't make this up podcasts. Rebecca LaVoy,

hello, Rebecca. I'm a good cop, Kevin. Hello, Kevin. Yeah, that'll be for Americans to decide,

actually. Rounding out our panel is our special guest from the cool, weird awesome podcast.

Our first ever five time returning guests, Brady Carlson. Hello, Brady. I just want you to know,

Kevin and Rebecca, I speak my mind. It's just how I'm wired. Yeah. If you don't like it,

it's your fault. Is he going to jack it? Does who get a jacket? Brady, like I said,

and I said, no, when they get the five time jacket, we're going to have to come up with some kind of

is Steve Martin going to come out now and Tom Hanks. No, just Martin short. Unfortunately,

we'll have Prifachi come get you. Prifachi. He's just going to drop off some lads on my front porch.

There you go. There you go. So, Brady, where were you when you found out the mothership was coming

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