Law & Order, But the Writers Are Drunk

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🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Strap in: Rick Wilson is joined by Carol Leonnig and Aaron Davis, who just detonated the political world with their blockbuster book Injustice. It’s the ultimate tell-all on DOJ dysfunction, politically motivated indictments, the Trump-era push to weaponize federal law enforcement, and the internal rebellion of career DOJ officials trying to stop an authoritarian slide. Rick, Carol, and Aaron break down everything from the classified documents scandal to the war on independent prosecutors, the assault on election integrity, and the rise of unchecked executive power. If you care about the future of American democracy, the rule of law, and the escalating 2025 political crisis, this episode brings the receipts—loudly.
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You can find Carol Leonnig @CarolLeonnig on X, and Aaron Davis @byaaroncdavis on X. Their bestselling book ‘INJUSTICE: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America’s Justice Department’ is out now, wherever fine books are sold.

Rick Wilson is on X at @TheRickWilson, on Bluesky at @TheRickWilson.bsky.social, and you can check out Rick's Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. You can check out more of LP's work at www.lincolnproject.us and on X at @ProjectLincoln.

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1:06.9	Devoted public servants being tossed out the window by Donald Trump and personally attacked and losing their jobs when all they've ever done is serve the country as patriots.
1:16.5	Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battlehearted.
1:23.2	There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America.
1:27.1	Good night and good luck.
1:28.0	Hey, everybody.
1:29.7	Welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast.
1:33.0	As always, I'm your host, Rick Wilson, and we are delighted to have you with us.
1:38.4	This interview today is in that category of ripped from the headlines.
1:45.5	We are delighted to have with us today, Carol Lining and Aaron Davis, who are the authors of a tremendous new book called Injustice, How Politics and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department. These are both
1:51.0	Pulitzer Prize winners. They are some of these smartest, most informed folks about the,
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