Tim and my friend Peter Hamby had tweeted the other day.

He said, I'd like to see a focus group of real actual cops giving honest analysis of ice officers in the field.

And I was like, that's a good idea.

We should find cops and find out what they think.

Now, I also knew that was not going to be easy.

It's like not easy to just go screen for cops because, A, you've got to find police officers

who are in the systems of people that they can find, that that's their occupation.

And then you've got to get them at a time when they know there's a lot of attention around

cops to come participate

in a focus group. But we did find 14 law enforcement officers. We talked to a group of Trump

voting cops and a group of Kamala Harris voting cops. And I'm going to use cops broadly.

I'm going to use law enforcement officers because they were a mix of federal law enforcement,

retired police officers, beat cops, some correctional facility officers. But they all have training

and they all had strong opinions on the way that professionals comport themselves in this line

of business.

I love this.

I didn't know what I was signing up for, actually, when I said, you just like come react to my focus group. I didn't even know it was going to be what Peter requested. And it's important, especially because when I was on peers, that the asshole, the officer Brandon Tatum kept yelling at me, like, are you a cop? Are you a cop? And I was like, no, but I'm pretty sure cops think this is bad.

So we can vet my priors there here. kept yelling at me like, are you a cop? Are you a cop? And I was like, no, but I'm pretty sure cops think this is bad.

So we can vet my priors there here. Well, that's interesting. Do you want to guess at all at the difference between the Trump voting cops and the Kamala Harris voting cops?

My guess is that the Harris voting cops are across the board say that like they acted

inappropriately. I mean, you know, maybe there's some caveats about, you know, whatever. You always

want to defend somebody in your business at some level and at least give somebody a little bit

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