Instead, they've just said, okay, fine, we're done with international law.

The mask is off.

And I think that's what we're seeing much more clearly under the Trump administration,

much more extremely abruptly severely under the Trump administration.

But this was the path of the Blinken administration,

and this was the path of successive prior administrations

that preceded that. You know, when Obama, you know, is considered heroic for merely abstaining

on a UN Security Council resolution saying settlements are illegal, and that's such a brave move,

you know, that is the process of eroding and undermining international law such that now,

guess what?

No one gets international law.

And that's the argument that, you know, it's so obvious, like I think a fifth grader

could understand the purpose and intent of law is that it applies to everyone equally.

And if it doesn't, it's not really a law, right? It's just a tool, a cudgel that you deploy selectively.

And I think that's what's happened. Welcome everybody to another street, another

Magna C Street podcast. We're very happy today to have with us, Sarah Leigh Whitson,

who's the executive director of Don, which is the democracy for the Arab world now.

And that's a non-profit U.S.-based organization that supports human rights and democracy in the Arab world.

She's previously served as the director of Human Rights Watch, Middle East and North Africa

Division from 2004 to 2020.

So we're going to have a very, very rich conversation about topics of U.S. foreign policy,

human rights, and I think questions of accountability in particular will feature over the past couple of years in particular.

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