Law and Blackwater in Iraq
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4.5 • 979 Ratings
🗓️ 24 October 2007
⏱️ 7 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Wednesday, October 24th, 2007. |
| 0:09.8 | I'm Caleb Brown. |
| 0:11.0 | What legal process should govern in the case of contractors accused of killing |
| 0:14.6 | 17 Iraqi civilians? Cato Institute Senior Fellow in Constitutional Studies, Ilia Shapiro, says |
| 0:20.8 | there are rules under which justice should proceed but ultimately what happens |
| 0:24.7 | may be as much a political decision as a legal one. |
| 0:31.9 | Military forces, whether it be Army, Navy Marines, are all governed by the Uniform Code of Military |
| 0:38.1 | Justice, the UCMJ. |
| 0:40.6 | So whether a soldier on base in the United States or while acting on the battlefield in Iraq commits some sort of atrocity or whatever other kind of violation of the UC |
| 0:55.2 | MJ of this military code of justice he'll be prosecuted in a court-martial or |
| 1:01.1 | according to other related proceedings according to the military code. |
| 1:06.5 | Contractors as civilians are not typically bound by the UCMJ, although contractors to the Defense Department are theoretically |
| 1:18.7 | under its jurisdiction as well. |
| 1:21.3 | Although rarely in history, I can't think of an example off the top of my head, |
| 1:26.2 | and certainly not in Iraq, has a civilian contractor of the Defense Department been subject to prosecution under that code. |
| 1:36.0 | For contractors who have their contracts with other U.S. government agencies, like the biggest one being the State Department of course. |
| 1:45.0 | Those definitely are not subject to the UCMJ. |
| 1:48.0 | There are other federal statutes that would cover cases of wrongdoing or extra contractual abuse of power by State Department |
| 1:58.0 | or Justice Department or Transportation Department. |
| 2:01.2 | We have them from all sorts of agencies, contractors, |
| 2:05.8 | wrongdoing. |
| 2:06.8 | You hear about also the Coalition Provisional Authority Order 17, which granted immunity to government officials of all sorts for their |
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