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Angie Martinez IRL

Laverne Cox: Stop Earning Love and Start Deserving It

Angie Martinez IRL

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Personal Journals, Music, Society & Culture

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Emmy award–winning actress, author, and activist, Laverne Cox joins Angie Martinez to talk about the current plight of the transgender community, moving to New York City from Alabama in the early 1990's, how somatic therapy was able to help her, and dating as a black transgender woman.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.4

Trauma survivors turn alarm bells into dinner bells and dinner bells into alarm bells.

0:10.9

It's insane, but it's really kind of common.

0:13.1

I think everybody, it's childhood trauma.

0:15.4

It's different versions of childhood trauma.

0:16.6

And then I realized, well, my mother's still alive.

0:18.7

Maybe I can work on this with her.

0:25.1

Yeah. And then I realized, well, my mother's still alive. Maybe I can work on this with her. Thanks for watching, guys.

0:26.3

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0:28.9

We need to start calling it what it is.

0:31.5

We're in this period in time where we are like conservatives have made us so afraid to actually just say racist, or we're

0:41.7

dismissed when we call something racist. Oh, they're being hyperbolic. Like, people will dismiss

0:46.5

us sometimes and we just like say this is racist. But I mean, this is like, this is not a nuanced thing.

0:53.0

No, no. None of this was nuanced racism. This was not like a microaggression. This was like, he was making watermelon and fried chicken jokes. I mean, girl, like. It wasn't just that. Are we in? Like, can we start? But the George Floyd. Can we start? Yeah. We're on camera already. I don't know how comfortable you want to talk about this at all. I hadn't planned on it, but here we are. I think we need to, you know, I've had, we jumped into conversation. I'm going to stop in a second and introduce our guests, but I do want to finish this thought, because what you were saying? Well, the facts for years, I felt kind of afraid because to say what's on my mind, because I was afraid to lose opportunities.

1:36.3

And I, you know, people are just not effing with trans people right now.

1:40.3

No, but people are never effing with trans people now. And we're in a fascist state, so I'm like somebody has to tell the truth.

1:48.0

And when the history books look back, I want to be a Christian, do you or not a Coco Chanel?

1:55.0

And for those who don't know, like, Coco Chanel is like a known Nazi sympathizer, and

2:00.0

Dior opposed the Nazis.

2:03.0

Anyway, some of it's in that, the new look show that was on HBO or Showtime or something.

2:10.1

But anyway, we were talking about the Kevin Hartrose.

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