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On with Kara Swisher

Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.22.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Transgender kids and adults have become a political punching bag for conservatives — but Laverne Cox is stepping into the ring. Kara talks with the transgender activist, Emmy award-winning producer and four-time Emmy-nominated actor, known for her groundbreaking role as Sophia Burset in Orange is The New Black, about the Trump campaign’s $200+ million spend on anti-trans ads during the election (and the Harris campaign’s lack of response); why Meta’s decision to no longer monitor hate speech could lead to more gender violence, and not just against trans kids; and how to stay resilient in the fight for civil and human rights (including packing a go bag). Plus: Laverne and Kara bust myths in a speed round about gender-affirming care, which is being targeted by laws across the country, and talk about her upcoming Prime Video comedy series Clean Slate. Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on Instagram and TikTok @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, how you doing?

0:01.3

Hello, I'm just making a jacket adjustment.

0:03.7

Shall I take off my less attractive jacket?

0:06.5

Like, much less attractive.

0:07.9

Hi, everyone.

0:19.4

From New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:21.8

This is On with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.

0:24.6

My guest today is four-time Emmy-nominated actress producer and activist Laverne Cox.

0:29.7

I've been a fan of hers since forever when she was on Orange and Zim Black.

0:34.0

She was a promising young woman.

0:35.9

I just think she's fantastic.

0:39.0

I recently ran into her and met her for the first time last fall on the set of the Daily Show, and I knew I had to

0:44.2

have her on and immediately asked her right there, like a crazy fan. Cox has been an actress for

0:49.5

decades. As I said, she's been a household name and her role as the in-house hairstylist

0:54.0

Sophia Berset on Orange is the New Black. I watched the entire show. As I said, she's making them a household name and her role as the in-house hairstylist,

0:57.9

Sophia Berset on Orange is the New Black. I watched the entire show.

1:01.1

Everybody stands out on that show, but she was a particular standout.

1:04.9

In 2014, she was nominated for an Emmy in that role.

1:09.5

That year, she also became the first transgender person to be featured on the cover of Time magazine.

1:12.3

Since then, Cox has been in dozens of movies and TV shows, including, as I said, the Oscar-winning film Promising Young Woman,

1:16.7

and Please See It If You Haven't, the miniseries Inventing Anna and the dystopic sci-fi movie Uglies that was a hit this fall on Netflix.

1:25.0

She's also hosted her own podcast, and until recently, Cox was a host

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