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There is another way in which they resist commodification,

which is almost more significant, perhaps.

And that is that nobody yet knows,

and I believe that this is still true to this day, how this symbiotic collaboration

happens. You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamaya Jane. Today, we are speaking with

Lori Palmer, whose work is concerned with material explorations of

matters active nature as it asserts itself on different scales and in different speeds,

and with collaborating on strategic actions in the context of social and environmental justice.

She sees art in its surprising, sensory, relational, and critically constructive capacities

as a liberatory force that can contribute to collective and systemic transformation.

Her work sometimes takes form as sculpture, installation, or writing, but also as collaborative

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