Lauren Spencer Smith on Grief, Divorce, ‘American Idol,’ and New Album ‘THE ART OF BEING A MESS’

Zach Sang Show

Sangasong, LLC

Tv & Film, Music

4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Lauren Spencer Smith returns to the studio for a third time to talk about her latest LP THE ART OF BEING A MESS. We go deep real fast with the British-born, British Colombia-based, American Idol alum. Just like her music, in conversation the 21-year-old is candid, raw, and funny, unpicking the true-life stories behind ‘IF KARMA DOESN’T GET YOU (I WILL),’ ‘Looking Up,’ ‘things you never say,’ and more. Her emotions are close to the surface; her songs, small exorcisms. The pain of grief, the disappointment of divorce, the fiery rage of being underestimated.

We also talk about self-love and acceptance, friend breakups, singing with Keith Urban at 11, American Idol, love, and so much more.

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0:00.0	insane pressure covers it's the zach sang show hello beautiful human happy day to you and to those you
0:06.2	love it's a monday at the time of recording this but this is the zack sang show and we're excited
0:10.4	to be in your ears all right it has been a while since we've hung it out you know oh yeah we've released
0:16.8	interviews over the last week but it's been a while since we've had a conversation like this
0:20.0	so it's good to be back talking to you.
0:21.9	A big reminder, reach out to us wherever you can at Zach Sang Show across all of it.
0:26.5	Dan is officially back from Spain.
0:28.1	Ah, hello.
0:28.9	Welcome back, Dan.
0:30.1	He's a world traveler.
0:31.1	Do I look a little more Spanish?
0:32.4	Yeah, you do.
0:33.2	I thought you were going to come back and be tan and stuff okay everybody told me today other than you that i looked tan this is very tan for dan yeah this is tan for dan there's come on carlos do you see a tan
0:44.7	i saw it in the face not in the arms got it oh i see it all over dan you know what i'm saying
0:49.6	yeah man thank you head to go hey man man man to abiza i did very cool very trendy yeah the cool kids were doing it so i had to go. Hey. Dan went to Abiza. I did.
0:55.0	Very cool, very trendy.
0:56.0	Yeah, the cool kids were doing it, so I had to check it out for myself.
0:58.0	But is it as cool and as trendy as everybody makes it out to be?
1:02.0	I mean, I get why it's cool and trendy.
1:04.0	Yeah.
1:05.0	That makes sense.
1:06.0	Do people in that place call it Ibitha?
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