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Hey, so how are you? You're in LA?

Yeah, I'm in LA. I'm doing okay. I mean, you know, I'm thankful that I'm able to stay home and just hang out.

It sucks, but it's still like the best case scenario. So I don't know. How about you?

I'm great in the sense that I feel really fortunate. I, you know, everybody in my family's safe and...

Yeah. But I go through waves of the terror of the unknown of, you know, feeling like what the fuck?

What does the future look like? I'm not saying anything that's groundbreaking, but...

No, I agree. I mean, I think this has been like such a terrifying moment because I mean, I, I'm starting to like accept my reality now.

So I'm feeling like more like myself, but the first couple weeks, I feel like I was just crying all the time and panicking and like having so much anxiety that was beyond any normal level I've ever experienced.

Even if I think I have anxiety, it's like this has just topped everything and, you know, it's just that really scary feeling of not knowing what's gonna happen.

Like you said, don't you think it's changed our psyche a lot when you're watching anything?

And you see people shaking hands or hug or... Oh my god, yes. It's like it happened instantly for me. It felt like day three. I was totally highly aware.

You know, I don't know how you returned from that. From having that little, that little tug in your head decade from now of like,

Oh, yeah, I really want to hug this person. Wait, wait, wait, oh, I know.

But there are a lot of people, like I grew up in Seattle and people didn't really hug up there. Like people just didn't...

Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, they hugged.

That's kind of nice. Like, yeah, totally.

Totally. It's so nice. So when I move down here and like, I'm working with these new, intimidating people and everyone's hugging me and it's like,

do we mean this? I don't know if this is a genuine hug or is this like, I own you hug or is this like, I'm a fucking stab you in the back hug.

What's happening with all these hugs? I kind of hate hug culture. So I'm like, if that is something that goes away from this,

that might be okay. Because I do feel like there are so many like disingenuous hugs that happen where you're just like,

okay, now I'm hugging this weird guy who I just met once I'm gonna go and say just weird.

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