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And I found the idea of the aramisine and just sort of investigating loneliness to be something

that could actually be a helpful tool because if you're lonely for something, if you're longing

for it, it's actually sort of a way of knowing what you wish was present near you, you know, what you would love to be around.

And for me, that kind of reframed ideas of ecological grief instead of something as like finite to something that was a relationship that could be negotiated.

You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamea Shane.

Today we are speaking with Laura Murris, a writer and translator and the author of The Age of Loneliness,

which is a moving examination of the dangers of loneliness,

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