All right. I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Todd cast. It is 31 minutes until midnight Thursday night. So we're close to Friday morning. We are in Miami, Florida still and we just wrapped up the second night of the two night Democratic debate.

This was the first time we had a race on the network of NBC joining me now on Mark Murray and Carrie Dan.

My partners from first read the brains behind the NBC News political unit. Three of us are going to give you everything that we now think about these debates.

Since we were waiting until they were both completed, Mark and Carrie have spent most of the last three weeks working with our team of researchers and producers preparing for these debates all four hours of them.

Before we jump into it, I should note, we're sitting in a big hotel conference room pretty much our home away from home when we weren't in the beautiful Adrian R Center.

And as a Miami native, I have to say just so you know when I was 16 and 17 downtown Miami didn't have the Adrian R Center.

We didn't have the American Airlines. We didn't have half this stuff that's on the water. It is an unbelievable downtown Miami.

So I got to do that. You're welcome chamber of commerce.

But we are in our home away from home.

Carrie Dan, we've had 20 candidates.

And because we wrote and first read the questions about will those first debate have a shelf life, we are going to talk about the first debate first, dammit.

I'm going to be honest when you're I'm always trying to I'm always honest, but when you're up there on stage, I know I'm not seeing the same debate that viewers are seeing.

So I have my own experiences going back and forth. Trust me, I will have Bernie with his fingers, you know, raising his hand.

My favorite were one of the I think it was one of them would always try to do the sneaky like, hey, don't you see me chuck and would like wave the finger like, you know, hey, no one else sees you.

You see me waving my finger right and everyone's a mile. I like knowledge their finger and move to the next candidate, but Carrie Dan first debate. What do you still remember?

I remember Elizabeth Warren being going into it as the front runner and performing. I remember a surprising performance from Julian Castro, who I think when we were prepping for, we knew could be a presence.

But he really rose to the occasion. And when you look at how much he actually spoke, I thought coming out of that debate that he spoke for four more time than he actually did.

That's that's actually very impressive. Yeah, he picked his moments well. He he fought well to get it done. And I, you know, there was there was a pretty impressive performance from Booker on some things. But he wasn't as efficient.

He had more time and got less got less hits. The lack of efficiency by Booker prevented him. I think from being almost like the co winner with Warren on that front. That's an interesting theory.

But let's be honest, Mark Murray. When we think about these first two debates, I have a feeling the lasting memory is going to be Kamala Harris lecturing vice president Biden on bus. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, and will anything come close, come to a close second. It was a moment in which I think no matter where you were, if you were in the production area with NBC news, are you in the debate hall or watching TV, your heart just stopped. We all did.

And you didn't know where this was going. And by the way, what I was these candidates were, you know, they looked at the first night and said, oh, yeah, we can be even more undisciplined. That's fine. I do think viewers don't like that over time. If you jump in too much.

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