Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court.

I'm Matt Bellasife and I'm Sydney Battle and we're the hosts of Wonder E's new podcast, Dis and Tell.

Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud from the buildup, why it happened, and the repercussions.

What does our obsession with these feuds say about us?

We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Haley Bieber.

A seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows?

It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud.

But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon.

Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood.

How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums?

Follow Dis and Tell wherever you get your podcasts.

You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wonder E app.

Wonder E's new podcast, Dis and Tell, wades into the glorious mess of Celebrity Beef.

Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud and asks,

what does our obsession with these feuds say about us?

Follow Dis and Tell wherever you get your podcasts.

You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wonder E app.

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