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Late-Cycle Investment Theory: Foundations for the Coming Decade | Nicolas Colin

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Business, Government

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 455 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Nicolas Colin, a former French Treasury official and the co-founder of a European startup accelerator whose work sits at the intersection of technology, markets, geopolitics, and global finance.

In the first hour of their conversation, Kofinas and Colin break down Colin's "Late Cycle Investment Theory" and the framework behind it. They draw on Carlota Perez's model of technological revolutions and techno-economic paradigms, explore the role of speculative manias and market concentration, and examine why Colin argues that AI is less a brand-new technological revolution than an intensification of the computing-and-network paradigm that has been unfolding for the past 50 years. They also compare the current moment to the 1970s as a historical analogue and discuss why Colin believes financial systems are often the last piece to be rebuilt after a major paradigm shift.

In the second hour, Kofinas and Colin explore what this late-cycle thesis means for investors, the public, and the geostrategic competition between the United States and China. They discuss how tokenization and programmable money could reshape the global financial system's infrastructure, and how today's "Trump Shock" might be the opening move in a broader financial reset.

They also examine what financial fragmentation between two competing spheres—one led by China and one by the U.S.—may look like in practice, why programmable grid infrastructure and a new scale of electrification may be leading candidates for the next technological revolution, and what all of this implies for public debt servicing, inflation, financial repression, and wealth redistribution as proximity services replace the factory floor as the central battleground over which a new social contract will be formed.

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Episode Recorded on 12/22/2025

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up, everybody? My name is Demetri Gaffinus, and you're listening to Hidden Forces,

0:06.3

a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus

0:12.9

narratives, and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.

0:19.0

My guest in this episode of Hidden Forces is Nicola Collin, a former French official

0:23.8

and the co-founder of a European startup accelerator whose work sits at the intersection of

0:28.7

technology, markets, geopolitics, and global finance. Nicola and I spend the first hour

0:35.3

breaking down his late cycle investment theory and the framework

0:38.9

behind it. We draw on Carlotta Perez's model of technological revolutions and techno-economic

0:44.6

paradigms, explore the role of speculative manias and market concentration, and examine why

0:50.8

Nikola thinks AI is less a brand new technological revolution than an intensification

0:56.3

of a computing and network paradigm that has been unfolding for the last 50 years. We also compare

1:02.5

the current moment to the 1970s as a historical analog and discuss why he believes financial

1:08.6

systems are often the last piece to be rebuilt after

1:11.7

a major paradigm shift. In the second hour, we explore what this late cycle thesis means for

1:17.4

investors, the public, and the geostrategic competition between the United States and China.

1:22.7

We talk about how tokenization and programmable money could reshape the plumbing of the global

1:27.3

financial system, and how today's Trump shock might be the opening move about how tokenization and programmable money could reshape the plumbing of the global financial

1:27.7

system, and how today's Trump shock might be the opening move in a broader financial reset.

1:33.7

We also discussed what financial fragmentation between two competing spheres, one led by China

1:39.1

and one led by the U.S. may look like in practice, why programmable grid infrastructure and a new scale of electrification

1:46.5

may be the primary candidates for the next technological revolution, and what all of this

1:51.4

means for public debt servicing, inflation, financial repression, and wealth redistribution

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