Hi. Hello. This is Vicki Vox, and you are listening to Doing Great with me, Vicki Vox. We have a great show for you today. At least, I hope so. You never really know how things are going to go.

So why don't we just take this as it comes?

I'm going to welcome the guest.

It is a pure pleasure and a privilege.

I cannot wait to get to know them a little bit on today all the way from their house.

Welcome on to the show.

Wherever you are, welcome them, the one, the only, a co-host from the podcast, Homophobia.

Also was a writer on this show, The Heather's.

Or the Heather, just the Hathus.

Just not know the.

Okay, great.

Here they are.

Matt McCawake.

Yay. Hey.

It's truly, truly an honor to be here.

We should tell people that when I first logged on, there was just like a gorgeous cloud of smoke around you. And I was like, is this ambience always here or what's happening? I mean, honestly, I do keep the incense burning in the house. It's incense. It's the sage. It's the palo santo. I like to burn it all because you never know what's going on and I don't trust things so can I ask you

something because I have a little a thing of I don't know if it's sage or palo alto that I just

kind of keep on my I've lit it once when we when we moved and somebody told me that you're not

supposed to relight it is that right um I don't know who told you that or why they told you that.

Well, first we need to decide, is it the little piece of wood or is it like the leaves,

the sage leaves?

It must be sage.

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