Welcome to Conversations and I'm not sitting with my beautiful wife Lisa today instead

I'm sitting with my oldest son Addison Bevere. Welcome Addison. Thank you, sir. It's good to be here. Great to be here. Great to look at you

And I'm here with Matt. Don't look at me for too long. Okay. I won't

Matt Joya who is an likened adopted son. He's been with Messenger for 13 years and Matt tell a little bit about what you do at Messenger International

Absolutely. I manage the church relations department

So we have a relationship, John, with about 20,000 pastors and that's just in the United States and Canada

So we have a team of people that are there to minister and to build up pastors and to share the messages and how they can use them in small groups because our

Heart is discipleship and so we really view pastors as being out on the front line and in fact

We refer to them in church relations as seal team six because it doesn't get any closer to the to the battle than being a

Frontline pastor and you guys I'm so proud of you the way and I and this department used to be run by Addison and Addison's now are C

Oh, oh, and we'll talk about that maybe on the next podcast because these guys are gonna be with me next time too, but

You guys the thing I'm so proud about is how you have befriended pastors and I remember communicating that vision longer

Go saying you know, I see these pastors in rural areas and somebody just needs to be their friend

You know, they've got sometimes nobody to turn to and they're 300 member church because their community is only 2000 everybody in the community knows what everybody's doing

They need friends and we're gonna be their friends and you guys have done that so beautifully and I'm so proud of you guys

But today Addison, what are we talking about?

We're talking about the judgment seat of Christ. Wow. Yeah, and I should people be scared about the judgment seat of Christ

You know, that's a really good question

You know when Christians hear the word judgment and first of all it is an elementary

Teaching of Jesus Christ, which means is foundational, right?

So you know a lot of Christians think hey, I'm saved Jesus is my savior

He's my king

...