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Just a warning, there's some strong language in this episode and discussion of domestic violence.

I met her at the Gereens at the pub.

I really liked her happily, bubbly, outgoing personality. Like, she was always happy and fun and

really like fun energy to be around. Heidi Wales was in her 20s when she met Belinda Peasley.

Heidi was a young mum like Belinda, and they had kids about the same age.

So our relationship was more based around like a big sister, little sister kind of relationship.

Like I really looked out for her and I would like to think and believe that she looked up to me

and she was able to tell me so many things.

I think she did trust me a lot.

There were other similarities between them. They both kind of had their lives on fast forward

and maybe on a track they hadn't necessarily planned. Heidi says they became friends and she

even moved into Belinda's house for a while. I mean, I didn't know her for that long, but in the time that I did get to know her,

you know, she shared some really deep and meaningful things with me, and I did with her,

and, you know, I lived in her home and helped raise her child, and I'll never forget that.

But Heidi wasn't the only one who came and stayed at Belinda's house.

I can remember like warning her that those type of people who use heroin

are different types of people than people who use speed or smoke marijuana.

It's a different kind of drug, you know.

People get sick.

They'll do anything to get money for it.

I'm Gina McEwan and this is Unravel.

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