Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

will we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist, Joel Waltman.

What's up, S. Nation, and welcome to another episode

of Surviving the Survivor, the podcast

that promises to bring you the very best guests

in all of true crime and today as always is no exception. We're

going to get the legal side. We're going to get the psychological side of Saraboon. She's a bit of a loony tune,

saraboon, and stands accused of zippering her then boyfriend, George Torres,

into a suitcase watching him ride while he called out for help.

It was well over 11 hours later, which called her ex-husband who was going to testify as a state's witness,

and then after she spoke and her ex-husband came over, she then contacted 911.

Typically you would do things the other way around.

So a jury selection is underway.

This is day two.

We're gonna get into all the details in just a moment. Just got back in court.

And I'm going to welcome in Melba. How are you, Melba?

I'm doing it well. How are you doing?

Excellent.

So just to introduce the best guest here, you know the faces, Professor Joe Ptoto,

in the yellow scarf looking distinguished that's because she is

distinguished she is the Richard A Larson professor of constitutional law

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