LARRY HAGNER | The "Dad Drift" and How to Beat It
Order of Man
Ryan Michler
4.8 • 9K Ratings
🗓️ 2 September 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Over time, it's likely that you have drifted off course. Like a boat without a navigator, it's easy to let the current of reality, overwhelm, and frustration take you off course. My guest today, Larry Hagner has been a father for over two decades and knows firsthand what the drift looks like as a dad and how to steer yourself back on course.
Today, we talk about staying awake and vigilant when it comes to leading your wife and kids, the first "domino" to fall before things go horribly wrong, how to get your wife back on course if she starts to drift, in what ways do you become lethargic, monotonous, and bland in your life (and, what to do about it), and learning to build "conversations of curiosity."
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 - Introduction and Catching Up
00:11 - Larry's Knee Injury Discussion
04:33 - The Forge Event Recap
04:57 - The Pursuit of Legendary Fatherhood Book Launch
07:47 - Understanding the Drift
09:17 - Introducing Lance: The Avatar of the Drift
15:30 - Helping Your Spouse Overcome the Drift
16:12 - Getting Out of the Drift as a Man
23:51 - Coaching Consistency in Men
29:57 - Being a Man of Your Word
31:02 - Motivating Your Wife Respectfully
36:56 - Impact of Kids on Relationships
38:02 - Motivating and Guiding Children
41:50 - Creating Psychological Safety for Kids
47:22 - Building Trust Through Questions
53:30 - Navigating Single Fatherhood
55:09 - Finding Common Ground with Your Child
59:35 - Connecting with Larry and The Forge Event
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| 0:00.0 | Over time, it's likely that you have drifted off course like a boat without a navigator. |
| 0:05.5 | Guys, it's really easy to let the current of reality, overwhelm, and maybe even frustration |
| 0:11.1 | take you off course. My guest today, Larry Hagner, has been a father for over two decades |
| 0:16.3 | and knows firsthand what the drift looks like as a dad and how to steer yourself back on course. |
| 0:23.1 | Today we talk about staying awake and vigilant when it comes to leading your wife and kids, |
| 0:27.6 | the first, quote unquote, domino to fall before things go horribly wrong. |
| 0:32.3 | How to get your wife back on course if she is the one who starts to drift. |
| 0:37.2 | In what ways do you become lethargic and |
| 0:39.8 | monotonous and bland in your life and also what to do about it? And most importantly, |
| 0:45.3 | learning to build conversations of curiosity. You're a man of action. You live life to the fullest. |
| 0:52.0 | Embrace your fears and boldly chart your own path. |
| 0:55.0 | When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time. |
| 0:59.0 | You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong. |
| 1:04.0 | This is your life. This is who you are. |
| 1:07.0 | This is who you will become. |
| 1:09.0 | At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man. |
| 1:16.4 | Men, welcome to the Order of Man podcast. I am Ryan Mickler. I'm the host. I'm the founder. We've been going strong for over 10 years now, and we do not have any plans of letting up if you want to be a better father husband business |
| 1:29.3 | owner or community leader you are in the right place we helped shape and navigate and build |
| 1:36.1 | much of the the men's modern movement and we are as I said earlier going strong and we are not |
| 1:43.1 | stopping any time soon. To that end, |
| 1:45.9 | we have incredible conversations. I've had Jocko on the podcast, Ben Shapiro, David Goggins, |
| 1:51.1 | Dave Ramsey, Tim Tebow, Terry Cruz, Matthew McConaughey. I've had an incredible, George |
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