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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

Largest Funder of Al-Shabaab? Investigators Point to Minnesota Taxpayers

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.94.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

  • Election Day Promise & Conservative Push

    • Starts by recalling Donald Trump’s pledge to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse.
    • Mentions a conservative initiative called “Doge” that inspired investigations into state-level corruption.
  • Massive Fraud in Minnesota

    • Accusations that Minnesota taxpayers became the largest funder of Al-Shabaab due to welfare fraud.
    • Fraud allegedly concentrated in programs like Housing Stabilization Services (HSS) and autism therapy services, as well as the nonprofit Feeding Our Future.
  • Housing Stabilization Services Program

    • Launched in 2020 with an estimated cost of $2.6 million.
    • Costs ballooned to $104 million by 2024.
    • U.S. Attorney Joseph Thompson called the program “straight up fraudulent,” citing fictitious companies and fake services.
  • Feeding Our Future Scandal

    • Nonprofit founded in 2016 to sponsor child nutrition programs.
    • Funding exploded from $3.4 million in 2019 to nearly $200 million in 2021.
    • Fraud involved fake meal counts and fabricated invoices; money allegedly spent on luxury items and overseas real estate.
  • Autism Services Fraud

    • Medicaid claims for autism therapy skyrocketed from $3 million in 2018 to $399 million in 2023.
    • Kickbacks paid to parents to enroll children, even without diagnoses.
    • Number of autism providers surged from 41 to 328, many linked to Somali community members.
  • Political & Media Complicity

    • Claims Democratic officials ignored fraud or enabled it.
    • Suggests fear of being labeled racist prevented scrutiny.
    • Notes alleged ties between fraud perpetrators and politicians like Ilhan Omar and local officials.
  • National Security Angle

    • Federal sources reportedly confirm stolen funds were sent to Somalia, benefiting Al-Shabaab.
    • Frames this as a threat to U.S. security and a failure of progressive governance.

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0:05.7

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0:09.0

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0:13.7

We talked about that, but if they needed, I would do it.

0:16.7

You're listening to the 47 morning update with Ben Ferguson.

0:20.6

Good Monday morning. It's the 47 morning update. It's so nice to have you with us.

0:24.8

And we've got a very big story for you that you need to share wherever you can.

0:29.9

Your tax dollars going directly to terrorist organizations in Somalia.

0:35.7

How is it happening?

0:37.1

Through fraud, waste, and abuse in our government.

0:40.8

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