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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

Illegal Orders or Political Theater? Democrats Urge Troops to Defy Trump

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.94.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

  • Democratic Video Urging Military to Reject Illegal Orders

    • The video features prominent Democrats (e.g., Senator Mark Kelly) advising troops to refuse unlawful commands and consult legal advisors.
    • They emphasize loyalty to the Constitution over any individual president.
  • Republican and Conservative Backlash

    • Trump labeled the video as sedition and called for arrests.
    • Critics argue that telling military members to defy the president undermines the chain of command and national security.
    • Glenn Beck and Trump cite 18 U.S.C. §2387, which criminalizes attempts to cause insubordination or mutiny in the armed forces.
  • Legal and Ethical Debate

    • Democrats defend their stance by referencing historical precedents (e.g., Nuremberg Trials) and popular culture (e.g., A Few Good Men).
    • They argue that troops should never follow illegal orders, though critics claim no evidence of Trump issuing such orders exists.
  • Media and Public Reaction

    • Outlets like ABC, NBC, CBS, and commentators such as Bill Maher question the wisdom of the video.
    • The discussion highlights the tension between lawful obedience and political rhetoric.
  • Broader Political Commentary

    • The author portrays Democrats as radical, labeling them “Marxist socialists” and accusing them of undermining U.S. law and governance.
    • Mentions recent elections of self-identified socialists in major cities as evidence of ideological shifts.
  • Foreign Policy Segment

    • The latter part shifts to U.S.-Russia-Ukraine negotiations.
    • Discusses Trump’s 28-point peace plan, European counterproposals, and corruption allegations in Ukraine.
    • Notes concessions like capping Ukraine’s military size and reintegrating Russia into the G8.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

So Democrats have urged military members to reject unlawful orders in a new video.

0:16.8

I just want you to let that set in for just a moment.

0:19.5

Just think about what I just said.

0:22.3

Democrats are now urging military members to go rogue, to reject orders coming from Donald Trump.

0:29.9

Now, of course, they disguise this under the idea of rejecting, quote, unlawful orders in this new video.

0:36.7

We're talking about legitimate members of Congress.

0:41.3

Senator Mark Kelly, for example, joined another senator and four House members to release

0:47.1

a one-minute video, urging U.S. troops and intelligence personnel to refuse what they describe as illegal orders

0:57.0

and consult legal advisors.

0:59.5

Many in the group, like the former CIA analysts, who's now turned senator, Slotkin, drew

1:06.5

from their own service experience to stress loyalty to the Constitution over any individual.

1:12.7

President Donald Trump has called the message sedition and demanded arrest.

1:17.6

Legal experts note, it aligns with military law requiring obedience only to lawful commands.

1:24.7

The exchange underscores the ongoing concern by many conservatives of a radical left

1:30.0

that is now basically advocating for a coup attempt. What's even more crazy than this is the

1:38.0

fact that now that Democrats who are in the video are having to defend the video, they

1:43.7

sound even more unhinged than the video originally.

1:48.4

J.D. Vance, putting this out earlier saying, quote, if the president hasn't issued illegal orders,

1:53.7

the members of Congress telling the military to defy the president is by definition illegal.

2:00.2

This after the senator, Slocan, admitted Democrats lied about

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