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Welcome back to practical stoicism. Thanks for being being here. Today we're going to be covering

Meditation 20 from Book 4. But before we dive into that, I want to take a moment to remind you of

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notes as well. All right, now let's jump into Meditation 20 from book four, which reads as follows.

He who has a vehement desire for posthumous fame does not consider that every one of those who

remember him will himself also die very soon. Then again, also they

who have succeeded them, until the whole remembrance shall have been extinguished as it is transmitted

through men who foolishly admire and perish. But suppose that those who will remember are even

immortal, and that the remembrance will be immortal,

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