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Talking Feds

Lame but Lethal

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Government, Politics

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Three of the most insightful observers of American politics—Jason Kander, Mara Liasson, and Josh Marshall—join Harry to analyze a week in which President Donald Trump was knocked on his heels, and lashed out viciously in response. The panelists talk through the big questions: Will Republicans keep up the pressure for transparency about Jeffrey Epstein? Why have Trump's recent outbursts been so vile even by his standards? Were Democrats aiming to further provoke him when they warned troops against following illegal orders? And, is the weakened president already entering a lame duck period? Mentioned in this episode:  Jason’s podcast Majority 54: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/majority-54/id1309354521  Mara’s reporting: https://www.npr.org/people/1930401/mara-liasson   Josh’s writing: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/author/josh_m Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:19.6

Welcome to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests

0:28.2

for a dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day.

0:33.6

I'm Harry Littman.

0:35.3

In a humiliating about face, Donald Trump gave in and signed a measure that requires the

0:42.0

Justice Department to release much of its material on Jeffrey Epstein.

0:47.0

But Trump may have other moves up his sleeve to try to forestall publication, including

0:53.1

claiming that the files are all part

0:56.2

of a pending investigation that he himself ordered.

1:00.6

A few hours after we taped this conversation,

1:03.6

a leader of the Epstein Files Rebellion,

1:06.9

Marjorie Taylor Green, announced that she is resigning from Congress. Her parting message took

1:13.4

shots at the president and presented the possibility that she will find new ways to erode his

1:19.6

control of the party. As he reeled from the Republican mutiny, Trump lashed out with unusual vileness even for him. And after some Democrats put out

1:31.5

an ad reminding members of the military, they do not have to obey patently unlawful orders.

1:38.9

Trump all but called for their heads. Trump also faced significant setbacks in the courts, including a series

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