So a lot of times whenever we would talk about things, then I would get him and say,

go talk to him for me, you know, so that's what he used to do.

He was to always be the person that was speaking all the time.

So they would say, Arlo is the one who butchers.

You know, Arlo is doing this, Arlo's doing that.

He's doing the classes out of his house.

And I was like, well, that was kind of me, because I used to push him out there to talk for me.

So he was like, go ask Arlo. Arlo will teach you how to do it.

And you know, and it was because I was really shy you know I didn't really I still have a hard time doing that

talking but I think when we teach whether it's you know traditional foods or the butchering I've been trying to get up

there you want me to oh okay so um but yeah, we used to, whenever we got started with the butchering, it was really interesting about the butchering too was that when we had wanted to start teaching people how to butcher in the community down in Pine Ridge,

I was told that I had to get permission from the elders. So luckily for me, you know, I went around and I was able to talk to a few of them just to, you know, get an idea of how they ate a long time ago. And here, so I brought that up and I said I want to do these butchering

classes so that people can learn how to butcher. You know, and I know a lot of people were in the same position as I was you know growing up and not being taught how to do it

So I am I asked you know I told them I needed to get permission and almost all of them had the same reaction.

They were like if you wait for permission it's never going to happen. Just do it. You know, so that's that's why we've been doing it since 2016.

So, yeah, it was a long time coming.

But... So, Don't go go on a hand. Okay, my name is Lisa Iron Cloud. My maiden name is Waters. My dad's

Albera Waters from Pine Ridge and my mom is Agnes Red Elk from Manderson

and I'm

am 40 years old.

My name is young.

My name is Arlo Iron Cloud.

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