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LAist Studios presents Imperfect Paradise: The Castle: Part 4

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LAist Studios

True Crime

4.2887 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Part 4: What’s the history behind the on and off-stage gender dynamics in Western magic? And what impact did the summer of 2020 have on the field of DEI? Imperfect Paradise host Antonia Cereijido explores these questions with magic historian Margaret Steele and Amber Johnson, Assistant Vice Chancellor and Chief of Staff of the Division for Equity and Inclusion at UC Berkeley.

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0:00.0

We're introducing a new podcast from LA as studios Passing the Mantel.

0:05.4

Exploring stories that connect generations and sometimes divide them.

0:08.4

I'm Larry Manzel.

0:09.4

And I'm Desmond, his son and co-host.

0:11.2

Listen to Passing the Mantel mantle wherever you listen to podcasts.

0:16.0

Alayist and show and tell present an evening with Fran Leibowitz.

0:20.0

Author, journalist, and social observer will take the stage Wednesday September 25th at the Multilbonne

0:24.4

theatre. Tickets and information at LAAS.com slash events. LA's studios.

0:47.0

You're listening to Imperfect Paradise. I'm your host Antonia Cérejido.

0:50.0

On the last three episodes of Imperfect Paradise, the Castle,

0:53.6

we took you inside the story of a magic lover who struggled to make a place for themselves

0:58.7

inside one of the most exclusive members-only clubs in Hollywood, the Magic Castle.

1:05.5

Carly used in studied magic for over a year in order to pass their audition to become a member at the castle.

1:18.0

But once inside, they were confronted with the realities of existing in that space as someone who was trans and non-binary.

1:21.0

It felt like you were back in time in a place where like almost everyone there's an older white sists heterosexual man.

1:29.0

It's their world that you're stepping into.

1:31.0

Carly's disappointment with the castle came to a head in the summer of 2020 following the

1:36.8

murder of George Floyd when the castle struggled with how to address issues of equity

1:41.6

and inclusion.

1:43.4

It definitely felt like a turn in point.

1:45.0

And I'm like, is the castle going to move forward

1:47.5

into the future?

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