LAist Studios presents Imperfect Paradise: The Castle: Part 4

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🗓️ 20 December 2023

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Part 4: What’s the history behind the on and off-stage gender dynamics in Western magic? And what impact did the summer of 2020 have on the field of DEI? Imperfect Paradise host Antonia Cereijido explores these questions with magic historian Margaret Steele and Amber Johnson, Assistant Vice Chancellor and Chief of Staff of the Division for Equity and Inclusion at UC Berkeley.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Imperfect Paradise. I'm your host Antonia Selejido. On the last three
0:07.1	episodes of Imperfect Paradise The Castle, we took you inside the story of a magic lover who struggled to make a place for themselves
0:15.1	inside one of the most exclusive members-only clubs in Hollywood, the Magic Castle.
0:21.8	Carly Ustin studied magic for over a year in order to Castle. side they were confronted with the realities of existing in that space as someone who was
0:35.2	trans and non-binary.
0:39.2	It felt like you were back in time in a place where like almost everyone there's an older white
0:43.5	cis heterosexual man it's their world that you're stepping into.
0:47.5	Harley's disappointment with the castle came to a head in the summer of
0:51.4	20-20 following the murder of George Floyd, when the
0:55.1	castle struggled with how to address issues of equity and inclusion.
0:59.7	It definitely felt like a turn in point, and I'm like, is the castle going to move forward into the
1:04.7	future are we going to be on the right side of history as so many industries as
1:09.1	so many groups have faced those moments of like reckoning.
1:12.2	After we produced this story groups have faced those moments of like reckoning.
1:13.4	After we produced this story, I still had questions about what happened to that influx of interest
1:19.0	in DEI three years later, and why change is so difficult.
1:24.0	I don't think it's coming from a place of malice or apathy.
1:28.0	I think it comes from living in a society where you don't have to see the hurt if you don't want to.
1:35.0	That's coming up.
1:37.0	But first, in order to better understand magic inclusion,
1:41.0	I wanted to dive into how the gender dynamics that play out in Western Magic both on stage and off came to be.
1:50.0	We do not have that much information about the demographics of magic performers.
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