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DISGRACELAND

Lady Gaga (Pt.1): How She Manipulated the Conspiracy Theorists on Her Way to Becoming The Biggest Pop Star on the Planet

DISGRACELAND

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Music, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.613.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Lady Gaga not only manipulated her past, she manipulated the media into propping her up on her way to becoming one of the biggest stars in the world. She also toyed with conspiracy theorists, using their fervent chatter to boost her mythology. From the Intersex theory to Lina Morgana, we get into all of it in this part one episode on Lady Gaga. To listen to Disgraceland ad free and get access to weekly bonus content and more, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GET THE NEWSLETTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (formerly Twitter)  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Fan Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Double Elvis. Disgrace Land is a production about one of the biggest pop stars on the planet.

0:28.9

A Grammy-winning chart-topping, staggeringly successful musician,

0:33.7

an artist who refuses to be easily defined.

0:42.5

A shape-shifting, influential five-tool multi-hyphenate icon,

0:49.2

a singer, a songwriter, an actor, an endlessly compelling superstar with legions of followers from all over the world.

0:51.5

She's more than mainstream.

0:53.1

She is the mainstream, yet she's the voice of the

0:56.9

marginalized, the alienated, the isolated of freaks and monsters everywhere. And she inspires

1:03.8

more than just fandom and obsession. She's compelled countless conspiracy theorists whose claims about her are as absurd as they are horrifying.

1:15.9

She's a man. She's a murderer. Are these claims true? And if not, why won't they go away?

1:23.7

What is it about this artist that drives these persistent conspiracies?

1:29.5

The artist I'm talking about is, of course, Lady Gaga, an artist who, yes, makes great music.

1:39.1

Unlike that music I played for you at the top of the show, that wasn't great music.

1:44.5

That was a preset loop from my Melotron called Fish Nets on Delancey, MK, 1.

1:52.0

I played you that loop because I can't afford the rights to So What, by Pink?

1:58.0

And why would I play you that specific slice of dirt bike dating cheese? Could I afford it?

2:04.9

Because that was the number one song in America on October 4th, 2008. And that was the day Lady Gaga's

2:13.3

friend and musical collaborator, Lena Morgana died.

2:23.3

An event that kicked off one of the wildest, darkest rumors in modern music history.

2:33.0

On this episode, influencer versus shapeshifter, icon of sex or intersex, borrowed or stolen identity,

2:37.9

suicide or murder, Illuminati or Catholic schoolgirl gone wrong. The Lady Gaga story you didn't know you needed. I'm Jake Brennan and this is

2:45.4

disgrace land. Most people spend hours perfecting the outfits they're going to wear to gain entrance into exclusive nightclubs.

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