Labs, Cults, and Votes
The Mona Charen Show
The Bulwark
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 4 June 2021
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Beg to Baeck to Differ. |
| 0:10.0 | The Bullworks Weekly Roundtable discussion featuring civil conversation |
| 0:14.4 | across the political spectrum. From center left to center right, I'm Mona |
| 0:18.8 | Charon, syndicated columnist and policy editor at the Bullwork. I'm joined by our regulars Bill |
| 0:24.8 | Galston of the Brookings Institution in the Wall Street Journal, Damon Linker of the |
| 0:29.0 | week, and Linda Chavez of the Niskanin Center. Our special guest this week is Peter |
| 0:34.3 | Wainer of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Pete's also a contributor to the |
| 0:38.8 | New York Times. Welcome one and all. We have a lot of what Orwell would call wrong think to correct this week. |
| 0:48.0 | And so let us jump right in with the Wuhan Lab Leak story and the press and the parties. |
| 1:00.1 | This has gotten a lot of attention in the last week or so namely that this idea that the |
| 1:07.8 | coronavirus originated in a lab in China was originally debunked as a conspiracy theory but now by President |
| 1:18.7 | Biden has ordered that we that our intelligence agencies look into it and establish what the truth of the matter is. |
| 1:28.9 | So Bill Galston, I'm going to start with you. |
| 1:33.0 | One of the things that people, one of the morals of this story is supposedly that the press really screwed up here by treating this as a conspiracy theory when in fact it was a |
| 1:48.8 | perfectly reasonable supposition. What's your reaction to that? I find it hard to disagree with that |
| 1:55.6 | proposition. In retrospect, it was not given a fair hearing, despite the fact that we knew almost nothing about what had happened |
| 2:07.6 | because the Chinese stonewalled us and the rest of the world. So you really have to distinguish sharply between |
| 2:17.5 | statements that are contrary to known fact and statements that are neither |
| 2:22.3 | supported nor contradicted by known facts, which was more or less the situation with regard to the Wuhan labs. |
| 2:31.0 | Since then, a certain amount of raw intelligence that's made its way into the press |
| 2:36.2 | suggests that there is something to investigate. For example, the pretty much uncontroverted fact that three workers at the lab got mysteriously |
| 2:50.4 | sick late in the fall before the pandemic broke out and there are now some |
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