Next is a guest I love having on, and I mean this irrespective of politics.

I have the greatest of respect.

He's the prime minister we should have had in this country,

former Conservative Party leader who lived alive and worked and has gravitas for Ian Duncan Smith.

That was a nice opening by me, wasn't it? Good morning. Good morning.

Thank you. Yeah.

It's an interesting point. Let me just talk about Thursday. We're not talking about how people vote.

Exercising your democratic vote is massively important, Ian, isn't it?

Well, people died to defend our right to vote.

The Second World War, my father, you know, put his whole life on the line for five or six

years to defend against Nazi Germany and their suppression of any voting rights that we might

have had.

Our freedom, you know, as I always say to lots of people, freedom is not free.

It's the most expensive item we can ever have in our lives because it costs lives to defend it.

And, you know, honestly, I say to anybody who doesn't vote and gives up, well, if you give up on voting, you give up on life because it's what we are about.

And I know you can get frustrated with politicians. I am one.

I know exactly how you can feel about these things that people won't change things and that you need change. But it does happen and change can happen and things can be better and different and we're going through a period of that at the moment. So I do recommend people get out there and vote. I mean, I agree with your call. I mean, this Labour government is in complete shambles.

I've never seen a government since I've been in politics, which has collapsed so fast,

doesn't seem to have any concept of what it's really about. On the one side, they're literally

dictating to us through things like the net zero changes and industry being told the matter

whether people want to buy their electric

cars they have to make them thus losing money all this sort of stuff they won't drill

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