Welcome to Political Fix from the Financial Times with me, Lucy Fisher.

But sadly, not for much longer, at least for the time being, because I'm about to head off on maternity leave.

But I'll be back in a matter of months and fear not.

In the meantime, the podcast is heading into the very capable hands of my colleague, George Parker,

who you'll know as a regular panelist on the podcast, and he is, of course, the FT's political editor.

So a big thank you to George for jumping in the hot seat.

But for now, it's been another turbulent week for Kirstama, as he's trying to put some flesh on the bone of his long-awaited

migration policy. We'll also talk about the government's latest bid to avoid crisis in English and

Welsh prisons. Here to discuss it all, I'm joined by my colleagues Robert Shimsley. Hi, Robert.

Hello, Lucy. And Jim Pickard. Hi, Jim. Hi.

So, Jim, big manifesto pledged from Labor to reduce migration.

Just take us through some of the key points of the long-awaited strategy by Labour to try and achieve that.

Yeah, and for perspective, remember that in 2023, immigration or net immigration into the UK reached 900,000 under the Conservatives at the time Boris Johnson. Therefore,

in theory, it shouldn't be so hard to get down that figure, which is Labour's express intent.

But what the boffins inside Whitehall say is that this will reduce immigration in total by about 100,000.

So it brings it down, but it doesn't massively bring it down.

We should say it is already falling, right?

So that Labour is benefiting from some of the measures introduced by the Tories.

Last year it was about 725,000, so down on that 900,000 peak.

Exactly.

And the measures in there include the closure of the care visa route.

So providers and care homes are going to have to use existing care workers already in the UK,

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