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The Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Natasha Frose and I'm joined by Katie Balls

and we have our special

guest Stephen Bush here today. Very special. Thanks very much for having you guys.

Cleverly was in the Commons today to talk about the Israel-Palestine conflict and

there were signs of a split in Parliament.

Stephen what was that about?

Right, essentially what we're seeing in the United Kingdom and in Parliament is what we're seeing

European politics. On the 7th of October of course you have a horrific terror

attack, a worse per capita terror attack than 9-11.

And essentially if you are in government in Europe, you are essentially you are following

the Biden playbook which is essentially to turn up and go we

completely hear you we understand that this awful thing has happened to you we back

you to the end of the line. However, it seems that your solution to this problem is quite

mad and won't work. So if you could maybe not do that, is that, yeah, that is essentially, you know,

the message in Rishi-Sunak was delivering in private the message and the message and

Joe Biden was delivering taxes and the message and

Olaf Schultz was delivering hire the message that you know look I could sit here naming

European heads of government until the cows come home but I won't and if you

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