Labour’s asylum seeker 'Carry On'
Planet Normal
Louisa Wells
4.7 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Our co-pilots, energised from their trip down to earth for the live show at the Battle of Ideas festival last week, are back on the Rocket to try and make sense of a week of madness!
They address the growing discontent following a string of high-profile incidents involving illegal migrants, most recently in Uxbridge.
The discussion turns into a blistering attack on the Home Office and the entire Civil Service, who the co-pilots argue, are actively stifling political reform and preventing any government—regardless of party—from delivering functioning public services or stopping the boats.
Strapping into the rocket this week is Conservative MP Helen Whately, who joins to discuss the urgent need for benefits system reform to encourage young people into work and end their reliance on state support.
Meanwhile Allison addresses the historic collapse of Labour in its heartlands in the Caerphilly by-election last week, signalling what could be a death knell for Labour in Wales.
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. |
| 0:09.0 | Let's just think about this, Liam. |
| 0:12.2 | Labour last lost a seat in Wales in 1931. |
| 0:16.8 | It's hard to over-stress how strong this is. |
| 0:20.6 | Four. |
| 0:22.2 | Disaster, having a million young people who are, say, not an employment, education or training. |
| 0:28.7 | Three. |
| 0:30.0 | My unsalted French butter habit is going to be like some of the more expensive champagne at the moment. |
| 0:37.4 | Are you telling me it's only 3.8 the more expensive champagne at the moment. Two. |
| 0:43.7 | Are you telling me it's only 3.8% more expensive to live than this time last year? |
| 0:45.0 | Absolutely not. |
| 0:46.5 | It's far more than that. |
| 0:47.3 | One. |
| 0:52.2 | We have left off. |
| 0:56.9 | Welcome once again to Planet Normal, the Telegraph podcast with Alison Pearson. |
| 0:57.8 | Hello. |
| 0:59.6 | And me, Liam Halligan. |
| 1:04.5 | It's good to be with you, co-pilot, on the rocket of right thinking, as we head for Planet Normal. |
| 1:09.9 | And this is our first voyage since last Thursday's by-election for the Welsh parliamentary seat of Kaffili, |
| 1:11.7 | with Labour losing in that constituency for the first time in over a century, signalling the beginning of the end, perhaps, |
| 1:17.4 | of the party's historic dominance in the land of your fathers. The Cuffilly seat went to Welsh |
| 1:22.8 | nationalist plied Cumbry on 47% of the votes, with Reform UK on 36, as Labour's vote share plunged from |
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