Labour humiliated by Chinese spy arrests
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
4.4 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 4 March 2026
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
It was a bad tempered PMQs today – Kemi Badenoch attacked Starmer over his involvement, or lack thereof with the Iran conflict. And Starmer hit back at Badenoch over her questions. Not the type of unity you'd want to see on the major foreign policy issue of the day. Also today, three more arrests have been made related to Chinese spy allegations. One of them is the partner of a Labour MP Joani Reid, who has said she is 'not part of' her husbands business activities. James Heale speaks to Tim Shipman and Isabel Hardman.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Heel and I'm joined today by Tim Shipman and Isabel Hardman. |
| 0:08.8 | Now, we had a rather interesting PMQ today. It doesn't seem to be the sort of knockout that Kimmer-Bad Knox had in recent weeks. Tim, do you want to talk us through it? |
| 0:15.8 | Yeah, I mean, look, she had to go on Iran and she did, and she asked some pretty searching questions of how the government |
| 0:23.3 | has arrived at the slightly curious position that it has and didn't really get very satisfactory |
| 0:30.2 | answers from Kyr Stama. My overall takeaway though was how bad tempered it was. Stama at one point |
| 0:37.2 | was upset. Well that's a good question. That's a serious question. But at the end, we're sort of ranting at Kemi-Badnock about how, you know, at moments like this, moments of war and peace, moments of great peril, leaders of the opposition are tested and they prove whether they are serious people fit to be prime minister. and she's just come along here and ask me a bunch of glib questions and it's all |
| 0:56.9 | hardly inappropriate. |
| 0:58.5 | And this is the first war I think we've had where the two sides are demonstrably in different |
| 1:04.1 | places in terms of their backbenchers. |
| 1:06.6 | When it was Tony Blair doing things aggressively, Labour were obviously sort of broadly on side with that, |
| 1:13.4 | and the Tories kind of supported them. And this time, the Labour Party is really not keen on getting |
| 1:18.8 | involved in this war. And Kemi Badernock spent her first two questions in particular, trying to pin down |
| 1:24.2 | Kirstama on how little he has done to support this military effort by America and Israel. |
| 1:30.8 | And her first question was basically, you have now accepted that it's legal for Britain to play a defensive role in this conflict and protect our allies. |
| 1:39.8 | And as a result of that, we've given permission to the Americans to go and use the air bases at Diego Garcia and R.A.F. Fairford to attack those missile sites in Iran, which are bombarding Gulf countries with missiles, chucking them at hotels and, frankly, quarter of a million Brits who are there at the moment. But why aren't we doing this ourselves if it's okay for the Americans to do it? And she got |
| 2:02.3 | no answer at all from Stama on that and she pressed away and tried to say, well, why was nothing done? |
| 2:08.0 | We've known about this for weeks that it was probably coming and I've written a spread in the |
| 2:13.2 | magazine which will be out tomorrow that will show that Kirst Starma was basically overruled by his own cabinet and couldn't push through a policy of doing this until such time as the missiles had started to fly. So she was very critical. Why did you not send more military assets? Why did we have two type 45 destroyers? Which only last night did they say one of them would |
| 2:36.1 | head to the region and starma really was quite indignant he read out a long list of all the |
| 2:42.9 | things we've done which he obviously thought sounded terribly impressive we've sent some you know missile |
| 2:47.6 | interceptors we've done this that and the other really the striking thing was how little it sounded like we'd actually done. And then he started trying to talk about |
| 2:54.9 | evacuation flights for British nationals in the region. And when Badenock tried to get him back |
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