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Hello and

this is a show for instance kisin.

and this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant guest this week is a firefighter, trade unionist and a columnist for the

unheard website. Paul Embry, welcome back to Trigonometry.

Nice to be back.

Yeah, you're back faster than most of our other guests because a lot of things have happened.

Not least with your career, you've had a bit of a change since the last time we spoke to you.

So tell us a little bit about the situation with you and your union.

Yeah, I had a bit of an enforced change.

It wasn't something that I was I was particularly

asking for but the last time I was on the I was on the show I was sitting on the

national executive of the fire brigades union and a fire fighter by trade

was also a senior official in the

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