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Laboratories of Autocracy: The David Pepper Interview

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🗓️ 5 October 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

David Pepper has witnessed Ohio devolve into an electoral autocracy where extreme Republican gerrymandering ensures that the results of the state elections are pre-determined. This is happening across the country in so-called red states, which are in reality voter suppression states or Republican hostage states. Pepper explains how we got here, what can still be done about it, and his list of reasons and strategies to fight like hell. For more on Pepper's work, check out his book Laboratories of Autocracy: A Wake-Up Call from Behind the Lines and his website LaboratoriesOfAutocracy.com.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Gaslit Nation. It's Andrea. I am joined today with a wonderful

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guest. But before we get to that, I want to remind everyone that Gaslit Nation is running

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a couple of contests. The first one is the Get Out the Vote contest where we're calling

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to get out the vote this year and these all important midterm elections. And from the

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responses we receive, we'll select a handful of folks to come on the show and hang out

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with us and do a big episode where we process and look back on this make it or break at

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election for our democracy and come together and support each other. We did this in 2020,

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and it was a lot of fun. So we're going to be doing it again in 2022. And then the second

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big contest is the Gaslit Nation Halloween extravaganza where we're going to do a radio

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play submitted by our listeners. So we're going to select a winner from the submissions we

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receive and produce it into a creepy crawly radio play summing up how we all feel basically

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living through these really strange times. Your writing prompts can be anything from the

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scary monster that is posh Trump or what's in Trump's basement in Marlago, Jared and

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Ivanka just have fun and let loose. The deadline to submit your radio play is October

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20th. And you can do it by setting submissions to Gaslit Nation at gmail.com. That's Gaslit

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Nation at gmail.com. Now our guest for today is the wonderful David Pepper who is an

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essential follow on Twitter. A David Pepper is a lawyer, writer, political activist, former

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elected official and adjunct professor and he served as the chairman of the Ohio Democratic

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Party between 2015 and 2021. In that role, he was engaged in various fights and extensive

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litigation over voter suppression and election laws in the Buckeye State. Stemming from that

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work, David appeared in all in the documentary highlighting Stacey Abrams Nationwide Fight

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